Friday, October 3, 2008

Besigye: Mbabazi targeted unfairly

Besigye: Mbabazi targeted unfairly

Gerald Bareebe

Kampala

Abandoned by many colleagues in Cabinet and in the ruling National Resistance Movement party, Security Minister Amama Mbabazi over the weekend received support from an unlikely corner ; opposition leader Dr Kizza Besigye.

Dr Besigye, who Mr Mbabazi famously accused of jumping the queue to succeed President Museveni when he declared his candidature for the 2001 presidential election, said that the security minister’s adversaries within the NRM are taking advantage of a controversial land transaction between Mr Mbabazi and the National Social Security Fund to harass him beyond what he is responsible for.

Dr Besigye, leader of the opposition Forum for Democratic Change party made the comments on Friday night while addressing members of the FDC youth league at the National Democratic Institute in Nakasero.

He said although Mr Mbabazi could be guilty of political influence-peddling charges, the individuals responsible for running NSSF should bear the biggest blame.

“The likes of [Finance Minister Dr Ezra] Suruma, [NSSF Managing Director David] Jamwa, and [Deputy Managing Director Prof. Mondo] Kagonyera are the real people supposed to take the biggest blame because they were at the centre of the deal,” Dr Besigye said.

The Parliamentary Committee of Commissions, State Enterprises and Statutory Authorities is currently investigating the deal in which the NSSF bought more than 400 acres of land at Temangalo, Wakiso from Mr Mbabazi and his business partner Amos Nzeyi. Suruma, Mr Mbabazi, Mr Nzeyi and NSSF managers all deny any wrong doing.

The MPs investigation is targeting violation of procurement laws, suspected price-inflation, and allegations of political influence peddling made by the Fund Board member who has since said he was quoted out of context.

But what started as an investigation into the investment has, developed into a running political soap opera, complete with tribal and religious undertones, that has split members of Parliament – including those on the committee – senior government officials and officials of the ruling NRM
Maj. Gen. Jim Muhwezi, a former health minister and senior official in the party, as well as several NRM legislators have openly called for Mr Mbabazi’s resignation or censure.  Mr Mbabazi, who has refused to resign, says he has been targeted by “political vultures”.

Dr Besigye says that the controversial land deal has given Mr Mbabazi’s opponents within the ruling party, a justification to carry out a witch-hunt on the NRM Secretary General, and has diverted the issues being investigated.

 “I think these people fighting Mbabazi are fighting him for other things,” he said. “Whether it’s a succession fight, it doesn’t matter for Uganda. All people in NRM have a problem and we must get rid of them. It doesn’t matter who is in front of whom, all of them should go,” Dr Besigye said.

Dr Besigye, who was President Museveni’s main challenger in the last two elections, attacked NRM for being a one-man vision party. “In NRM the power resides in the king not the people,” he said.

“Its Central Executive is not in charge. It’s Museveni who tells the party what to do instead of the party telling him what to do. Museveni is not interested in making NRM a party because it will control him.”

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aballa richard said at 03 Oct 2008, 07:06
to me i thing besigye was right there.
Pico Pi said at 03 Oct 2008, 02:03
I have for the first time taken my time to read through these commentaries and some issues are so evident:
first is that the publisher is not sticking to its rules, what happened to "...personal attacks will not be published..?"
secondly, i think this Musajja Muganda is sick,i mean i just cannot stand his language this reminds me of the late Obote's remarks: "a good muganda is a...." this wise man was obviously not refering to all Baganda, but to useless ones like Musajja Muganda.

I'm watching you.
R.GUDOI said at 03 Oct 2008, 00:57
please and please!
Listen.
TALK ABOUT FRAUD AND FRAUDSTERS IN UGANDA AND NSSF.
HOW DO WE HELP GOVERNMENT SOLVE FRAUD MATTERS.
IF IT IS AN ISSUE OF POLICY,HOW DO WE HELP OUT?
IF IT SYSTEM PEDDLING HOW DO WE ENSURE SYSTEMS ARE WORKING? PUBLIC SERVICE CAN IMPROVE ON POLICY FOR NEW HIRES AND INDUCT THEM ON HOW TO FIGHT FRAUD AND ITS CONSEQUENCES. STOP GIMICKING ON FRAUD AND CORRUPTON, IT STINKS. TARGET THE BOARD MEMBERS WHO ARE WHO DONT KNOW HOW BUSINESS GOES ON IN CORPORATIONS. THEY ARE THE MANAGERS ENTRUSTED TO SPEAR HEAD THE ECONOMY ,.BUT THEY DONT UPGOLD THAT TRUST ANY MORE. NRM SHOULD WEED OUT SUCH GUYS.
Bantu Aden said at 02 Oct 2008, 23:18
We need a new breed of leaders. How about forming a party of of the 40s and below. Any human being of conscience should have observed that we have recycled to much. The only worry is, when shall we over overcome this baldadash of tribal affliation. Maturity, nationhood and a common objective for one beloved country has to prevail. Bantu Aden
Dumba said at 02 Oct 2008, 16:44
Issac attacking musajja Muganda the guy must have tarched a raw nerve because you cant even reason you are spining out of controll the guy is telling you facts. All the district headquarters in Buganda belong to Buganda that is a fact all the counties, sub counties are Buganda properties how can you dispute that. Kabajja I understand your concern and I am sure you are trying to keep the debate civil thank you. I have no problem with that but when people talk trash about Buganda and Baganda we reserve the right to defend our tribe not only do reserve the right, but we have an obligation to do just that. I am suprised when i hear the Baganda haters invoke Buganda needs other tribes, who told you that? the Baganda will do just fine without them. They have been a problem and that has been our exprienced since the inception of independence. If the Baganda need the other tribes let us tell you. Why should everyone know what the Baganda want and need except the Baganda. Next time we need advise we will let you know mwami Issac, otherwise go help your tribe.
male said at 02 Oct 2008, 13:13
I used to hear banyankole saying (Abaganda nibashuma)baganda are theives.now who are thieves really when banyankole are here in buganda enjoying every minute.Driving expensive cars,sleeping in hotel with married women.please come on.
Pat said at 02 Oct 2008, 00:53
Surely, Ugandans where r we heading to!what's wrong wiz Ugandan Politics!
What is all the fracus about!
I'm sorry to express my anguish to fellow Ugandans. But this is really horrible. Amin was a dictator but things did not turn the way they are now. This implicates that the country is heading no where. Where did the pride of Ugandans go, Pliz let's have a feeling of nationalism. My appeal to all RELIGOIUS leaders Pray for our country Uganda to stablise. The country is heading to a blunder Pliz politicians think about the lives of the future generation. Among u Nobody owns this country we are passing on but pliz make a foundation for the future offsprings. Politicians the slogan "for God and my stomach will not work", we are the ones' that elected you so we need u to talk about community development issues in parliament.
6-pack said at 30 Sep 2008, 13:36

Hooray!! Its FIGHT NITE! ROUND2! As the status quo shifts from the sublime to the ridiculous, getting more dramatic by the minute, the president of Uganda continues to enjoy every second of it as clearly shown by his glances and smiles of tacit contempt. In one stroke, he gets rid of his rivals without any real use of very sinister tactics… It just hasn’t quite played out right yet. Why? Because Bukenya didn’t get as sucked in as M7 expected. The plan seems to have degenerated into a confrontation between Mbabazi and Muhwezi and yet M7 wanted a Mbabazi-Bukenya confrontation. Luckily for Bukenya, the two thugs had an axe to grind. M7 is probably saying damn! Coz while Mbabazi is permanently damaged by his greed in the Temangalo wetland scandal, Bukenya seems to certainly have gained a few political points.

kato said at 30 Sep 2008, 12:56
I think its not about who is who especially in terms of tribes, its about somebody with a Vision for the country(Uganda). Museveni has neva had any vision for uganda and will neva have. Ask him of the 10-point programme, then 15-point, now bona bagagawale. In the next elections he will come up with bona balinye enyonyi!! May be its high time somebody told our president that "Moses got da Isrealites from Egypt but neva took them to the Promised Land". Its high tyme somebody learnt that too much of anything is bad.
male said at 30 Sep 2008, 09:07
Sorry to say,that people dont know what is going on.President M7 and his group have their plan to sell everything encluding land in Buganda to devolpe their original country Lwanda.All these saga mbabazi,muhwezi and others,all these are already planned.It is like when (bayaye)thieves want to pick pocket some body,they will start to fight within themselves,and you whom they want to steal you will start to look at them while they are taking all what you have.Baganda wake up,you will find yourselves when your already naked.It is just a warning.
by Male
Loneranger said at 30 Sep 2008, 07:22
When you have a predominantly mono cultural Government there is a tendency of organised to take root, precisely what gave birth to the mafia and its ofshoots in the USA underground world, the common denominator was the ITALIAN identity
richard gidds said at 30 Sep 2008, 05:37
SORRY!
I feel like tis message should sink in everybody's nerves.
just help yourself anf future to say humbly and effectively that:
you wont keep silent to fraudsters
you will always reprot fraudulent acts
procurement fruad shall always be vetted

you wont be an accomplice to fraud
you will always help fight corruption in your neighborhood and
you will always report thieves and
you will swear that fraud shoulld never cross your line.
help ugand fight fraud and corruption than you can just look on. it is no easy task but try to help the nation help you.
food for thought:
what have you done to help fight fraud and corruption in uganda?
take care of yourself!
richard gudoi said at 30 Sep 2008, 00:19
who is this queit man?
please let us see your name and dont hide; let me know your name and i will you what you are,just here.

it is unpalatable to discuss personalities than talk about the economy and fraud.
it is unfortunate that you have spotted me to comment on.
i feel like you you alone should go back to school man and study ogundipe, j.a bright,name it.
the gudoi you are attacking has never been an accomplice in NSSF saga.
Are you tracking me or what are you doing,? are you idle so we can help. we have a lot of work for you in NRM.OK.

since you have decided to take on me and become divisionery form the frauds, i will want this continue.

i would need some one with his only ideas that are nation building not scotchers and scoffers

So stay blessed.

Kabajja said at 29 Sep 2008, 13:31
Isaac and Musajja Muganda, have u read ground rule 1, about personal attacks?
nin said at 29 Sep 2008, 13:07
Dr.Besigye as an aspiring president should have left this judgement to the courts of law rather than (much as he may have his own opinion) uttering such statements.That shows how imature Uganda will always be led despite change of regime.With his integrity he should be able to give Uganda a break about this whole witch hunting or even taking sides.We should note that such arguments are going to stay with us unless we choose leaders without any of their backgrounds.We who were not yet born or just born by the end of their war find it hard to identify ourselves with their stupid explanations if anything goes wrong in any institution its all about witchhunting.FDC&NRM supporters please advise your generals accordingly.We are soooooooooooooo fed up of this crap.My judegement is Besigye will also give us the same excuses if anything went wrong and i guess we have heard enough of this for more than 20 yrs.Again another 20..give us a break.I suggest all those below 40 should build their party so as to rid ourselves of these FDC&NRM viruses
Isaac said at 29 Sep 2008, 12:26
Musajja Muganda,
You are a disgrace to the Baganda! What infrustracture did buganda put up that you are talking about? You are the fellows bringing hatrade upon the Baganda by uttering such reckless remarks! Why don't you advance Uganda, rather than buganda? Buganda needs other regions and tribes to be able to achieve any thing, and the sooner the likes of you knew this the better!
Musajja Muganda said at 29 Sep 2008, 10:24
Mr. Gashugi shuold be greatful for the Baganda bringing him to a level he is at. If it was not for Buganda and Baganda you would still be walking around naked with cows. You are so insifiginificant to raise your voice to Baganda I know it is the inferiority complex that bothers you, for that we can not help you. It is such a joke that that you can help people that are ahead of you. The Baganda developed Buganda from 1300, what history are you reading that is confusing you? As of now the Ugandan government is still using infrastructures erected by THE BUGANDA government. Check your facts so that you do not stay uninformed. How you feel about Baganda I can not help it. We are who we are and we will remain Baganda whether you like it or not. Buganda does not need you and the rest of you all. You brought all your ignornce to Buganda and destroyed it.The faster you get out of it the better. Remember there is no Muganda interested in coming to your home tuff it is you all that are coming to our place. Did we invite you? Just shut up and work yourself out of your inferiority complex. Long live Buganda and Baganda. "Ssabassajja Awangale"
quiet reader said at 29 Sep 2008, 10:02
Richard Gudoi,
If you never write again, I will die a happy man.
While i agree that your ideas are good, repetition of the words fraud, fraudster in ugly randomized caps for no apparent reason has been really making our eyes sore.
First i thought u were just being a pain in the neck, but now i have a much lower opinion of you.
If i had the option of choosing, i'd rather watch paint dry than read the repetitions you have plagued us with, one day after the other
richard gudoi said at 29 Sep 2008, 09:39
I would like to take this opportunity to thank the monitor for allowing us to air bot empty ideas and push ideas. our folks here are idealess and just would want to take advantage of this offer we get to air our professional ideas to help government buld a solid way of fightng fraud ,instead people here call toehrs names and tribes.WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT? THIS ISSUE MUST BE HOW DO WE IRON OUT FRAUD AND CORRUPTION IN SOCIETY LIKE OURS WHERE EVERY JACK AND JILL IS POISED TO STEAL THE LITTLE THAT MAY LAY HANDS ON!
I WONT WRITE AGAIN OR YOU WONT READ MY GOOD IDEAS ABOUT HOW YOU CAN FIGHT FRAUD IN ROTTEN SOCIETY LIKE OURS. UNTIL YOU CHANGE YOUR ATTITUDES TOWARDS OTHERS. OK.
FRAUD KILLS OUR ECONOMY, FRAUD IS A DISASTER WE SHOULD AVOID, FRAUD IS AN ENMY TO US ALL, FRAUD IS LIKE HIV/AIDS .HELP FIGHT FRAUD IN UGANDA.
STOP CALLING OTHERS TRIBES OR NAMES. NO ONE IS WITHOUT A TINT OF FRAUD OR HAS NOT BENFITTED FROM FRAUDULENT ACTS. NAME ONE , WHO IS THAT?
CFE
Gashugi said at 29 Sep 2008, 08:57
Please leave our Afande Mbabazi alone. The man is good.

You Baganda must be greatful. We fought for you to be free from the Obote's. Please stop calling us thiefs.

We are working hard for you and givng you peace. At least be thunkful. THe money is there are we are investing it in Uganda. Don't be childish. Be mature for once.

Afande Mbabazi will invest the money in Kampala to create jobs for Baganda but not northerners. Common, please stop insulting us. We fought for your freedom and Baganda must be serious for once and not behave like ungreatful wife.
6-pack said at 29 Sep 2008, 08:56
Its actually very conceivable that some of the leaders of the FDC are a bunch of self-seeking individuals who's ambitions are incited by a lust for gain.
As for Betty Kamya, She took refuge in a passionate exaggeration of her own insufficiency, she totally discredited Buganda with her Impotent outbreaks of unreasoning rage, nobody has been seen to be more power hungry than Kamya.
I will permit myself the liberty of saying that people like her are going to be very costly to whichever side they support. There are very many clear headed women who can be more useful in the opposition compared to the trivial-minded Bettys of this world
Ntegye Asiimwe said at 29 Sep 2008, 08:48
Mr.Sserwadda,

With all due respect,if you have nothing to write about,stop generalising and calling all banyankole and bakiga thieves.Bring ur evidence against banyankole and bakiga to Police if u know what u are talking about.
Sserwadda said at 29 Sep 2008, 08:30
No wonder Beti Kamya left FDC, now we baganda can see that FDC is as tribalistic if not even worse than NRM
Sserwadda said at 29 Sep 2008, 08:27
Besigye is a mukiga defending a fellow mukiga,called Amama Mbabazi, these bakiga nad banyankole are all thieves
Vianney said at 29 Sep 2008, 08:05
Any way it may be good to turn another chick. But then tolerance to thieves will lead our country to nowhere.
richard gudoi said at 29 Sep 2008, 07:31
sure, dont let me feel like i'm one of the sellers of temaland. if it was done in goodfaith, it was a bad project.
so if mbabazi is being harassed, then what happened to onegi oble and bakoko, what happenned to the generals who peddled global funds and ministry of defense people's salaries money.
who is above the laws of Uganda.

so if mbabazi is harrased, common knowledge tells us from his own testimony that he cant escape the blame of ...
am i dreaming? trust is never a control. jsut think about it!
Izooba said at 29 Sep 2008, 06:16
Iam sure it is a sinister move on part of Besigye to appear to be sympathising with Mbabazi.
MBAGUTA said at 29 Sep 2008, 06:07
THIS IS WHY IAM PROUD OF OUR FDC PRESIDENT. HE DOES NOT TREAT HIS ENEMIES AS THEY TREAT HIM. HE TURNS THE OTHER CHICK!
Nicholas B said at 29 Sep 2008, 05:34
Now that is what we call Mature Politics. Thanks my President.
Greogry Ndizaawa said at 29 Sep 2008, 03:33
Very many officers in Governmrnt have done it. It is unfortunate that when Amama's case has loopholes,it is so much amplified espeially by opponents. Besigye"s comments are right only that at his level in govenment, he would have kept rather silent until the outcome of the report because it creates more havoc.
Bukenya Moses Kabiito said at 29 Sep 2008, 02:31
Every one is entitled to their opinion and Dr. Besigye is no exception.
After-all this is what the NRM said they fought for in the disguise of robbing the country.
The Body a.k.a Mwanje Simon Peter said at 29 Sep 2008, 02:21
Well, i get so perplexed when i hear Dr. Besigye claiming that Mr.Mbabazi is targeted unfairly because the people fighting him are fighting for other things. Dr. Besigye has forgetten that no one is 100% perfect. Although Mr. Mbabazi has rivals within the ruling party, it does mean that those so called rivals should be silent about the dissary he his (Mr. Mbabazi) is causing to ruling party. There is absolutely nothing like the indiciduals running NSSF should take the biggets blame, Mr. Mbabazi is also to blame as a senoir gocvernment official. Although the investigations are marred by tribal and religious undertones, that have split members of Parliament – including those on the committee – senior government officials and officials of the ruling NRM, that ideally educates us as Ugandans that every one is the other's watchman as regards misbehaving is concerned. There is therefore need for us to be critical of such issues before we utter them out because they may pave way for the creation of despondency amongst the public and lose trust in their leaders like Dr. Kizza Besigye.
Loneranger said at 29 Sep 2008, 02:19
Fundamental Change indeed!
PRIVATISE STEALING and SOCIALISE POVERTY, that is FUNDAMENTAL.
As for Comrade Mbabazi, He did not break the Law, no one can break the Law, WE BREAK OURSELVES AGAINST THE LAW!
God Bless.
KATUSIIME said at 29 Sep 2008, 01:33
DR.BESIGYE IS A PRESIDENTIAL MATERIAL.THAT'S WHAT WE CALL MATURE POLITICS.YOU WILL ONE TIME LEAD THIS COUNTRY. I AM A STRONG FDC SUPPORTER AND I AGREE WITH YOU ENTIRELY.
6-pack said at 29 Sep 2008, 01:19
In deference to a unanimous sentiment, Besigye is utterly wrong to say that Mbabazi is targeted unfairly. I find this statement incomplete and one-sided which makes it exasperating to the last degree. Since Besigye "jumped" the queue, it is easily seen that his sentiments are driven by the sheer centripetal force of sympathy.
Mbabazi was wrong on all fronts and not just influence peddling. He willfully masterminded the conspiracy to commit fraud by "selling" land of LOW value at an inflated price.
So while i respect Besigye for his courage under fire, i find his statement to be the product of a thousand mangled delusions..your inference is inescapable,
Objectively, 6-pack
richard gidds said at 29 Sep 2008, 01:10
WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE CLUSTER OF THE FRAUDSTERS, TELL ME HOW AND WHERE:

I STUDED IN TORORO AND I KNOW WHO COULD STEAL EVEN A RAZOR BLADE, THEIVING IS HABITUAL IN SOME LOCATIONS AND FRAUD AND TOGETHER WE CAN STEAL, HELP EACH OTHER GROW IS ANOTHER SCENE I CAN THINK OF. THUS WHY IT IS COMMON TO FIND IF ANY ONE GUY TALKING WITH IMPUNITY,PRIDE, NO RESPECT AND GANG WITH TO HIDE CULPRITS. HOW ON EARTH CAN SOME ONE BE SO GENROUS AS TO SAY NO DONT HURT, IT HURTS.
ALSO, WE SHOULD LEARN TO RESPECT OUR SENIORS IN OFFICES AND FOLLOW RANKS AND SURMONS. WHAT IS WRONG RESPONDING TO A SURMON AND EXPLAIN YOUR DAY THEN YOU GO SCOTHC FREE.
MISTER OF FINANCE SHOULD BEHAVE.
HE FIRST AVOIDED PARLIEMENTARY SURMONS, HE NOW ABATES OR EVADES VP.
guess what is next. If this was done to another individual, you would prove that the LWAS IS NO T FOR US ALL EQUAL. I'M SAYING WE NEED OUR NSSF FUNDS BACK. BE INVESTED IN GOVERNEMNT BONDS. QUCIK MONEY SO CAN EARN HIGH INTERESTS.
PERIOD!
I'M TIRED
RICHARD GUDOI said at 29 Sep 2008, 01:00
Dr.Besigye,
True you are entiltled to your view.

But I wont agree with you.
Are you going to lead Uganda when you dont know more abpout financial impropriety, financial scam, protecting those who hold the mantle of power,
Dr. Besighye would tolarate integrity beyond the nroms of leading by example and no wonder you wanted to jump the line to presidency.

So want change would you bring to this noble stae called Uganda.
I fear there would be much more frauds than we can read now.
Sorry
kizito said at 29 Sep 2008, 00:04
Call them by their acts high class looters with a phd in thugly. Educated in M7 graduate school of corruption.Took courses in organation crime,robberly,day light stealing and open book fraud.
Emma said at 28 Sep 2008, 23:28
FDC's president's statement shows that;
-he is a right person to rule this country
-his reign will always make fair judgement so one one will be held responsible for what he/she has not done
-it is also a challenge to Museveni who can not pretection his secretary against the so called rebels
-he is politically mature.
-man of the people
-anationalist
-a liberator
-a man with national vission
therefore other leaders should learn from him
Wilberforce said at 28 Sep 2008, 22:28
Dr. Besigye, surely your message contains a spirit of nationalism togather with clean and lean politics. all ugandan should take your message so serious. am surprised when i read the committees' proceedings, they don't know whom they are investigating, intead of NSSF they are all about Hon. Amaama therefore the results may be useless for national objectives.

Its clear there are some weaknesses in the transactions but who is responsible? Is it the duty of Hon. Amaama to implement procurement rules in NSSF? If one can sell land at 28m in 2006 then what do we expect in 2008 moreover in a capitalistic economy?

All the ministers involved in this misleading saga, should consolidate their political gains to resolve their conflicts peacefully and justly if they really have the spirit of nationalism. Thank you Dr. Besigye for your wise assessment.
Mayiko Makula said at 28 Sep 2008, 20:36
The question should be, how did Amama Mbabazi acquire this land? Is it for the sake of acquiring land or the project of possessing land in Buganda is loosing meaning. We hear that there was money put aside in UCB before it fell to buy land anywhere in Buganda. Is this the backfire as some members are realizing it made no sense and are now selling early or being greedy before the visionary leader declares the exact purpose this land project. These chaps utter such issues assuming that every body around them is not a Muganda. The people know and you cannot fool everyone.
Wandera Pauil said at 28 Sep 2008, 18:24
Finally someone comes out and says the obvious! It should have been clear the direction things were going after Mbabazi's first testimony to the NSSF probe committee; the way things were turned around into a political circus by some NRM clowns is amazing. That this has gone on for so many weeks without looking into the principle of the whole thing, just gives pause for thought on the manipulation of our media houses. These NRM clowns turned the Ugandan political world upside down because they have petty personal issues with their Secretary General! Let's wait and see the repercussions somehow I see heads rolling.
BAKER said at 28 Sep 2008, 16:39
BRAVO DR BESIGYE,AMN'T A SUPPORTER OF FDC BUT THATS WHAT THEY CALL MATURE POLITICS.